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ESOTERIC, JAY'S FIRST BAND

    JAY

    "HOW IT ALL BEGAN"
    In 1990, a TEENAGED Jay ( synths ) -still in high school- had a band called BEVELIN with his friends
    Josh, ( drums ) Saraboth, ( keys) and Jay's brother Dennis occasionally sang. This band merely rehearsed in the garage, not daring to actually do shows. It was just for fun mostly, and they did alot of cover songs, including "The Chauffeur" ( Duran Duran ), "Nowhere Girl" ( B-Movie ), "If You Leave" ( OMD ), "That Smiling Face" ( Camouflage ), "Take On Me" ( A-Ha ),
    "But Not Tonight" ( Depeche Mode ) etc.... Mostly 80's keyboard based shit and a couple of originals. This was the 90's and the start of the shitty grunge, guitar dominated era, so you can imagine why they didn't want to do shows! The 80's revival was still far far away.

    At the same time, Jay's brother Dennis had a band called Priority Zero he played keyboards in, with Pat on drums and Garron on lead vocals. Their band started to break apart, and Bevelin got Garron to sing with them. After writing a few songs, Josh decided he wanted to be a Chef, and quit the band to go to cooking school. That left the band with no drummer, so they recruited Pat from Garron's old band Priority Zero. By now Saraboth was also out, college life being too demanding to take music seriously. They knew they didn't want to be an all synth band with live drums anymore, they wanted to add guitars and bass to the mix and be more like a rock band that simply uses synths to augment the sound-than a completely electronic band. Bevelin now got Dennis to play bass with them, EVEN THOUGH HE HAD NEVER PLAYED BASS BEFORE, AND DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO!

    They already had a keyboard player and a singer ( the 2 things Dennis knew how to do), so Dennis decided to learn bass, being that's what Bevelin needed in the band at the time. He learned really really quick. Dennis brought Chris Kidd, a PUNK Ramones/Toy Dolls influenced guitarist into the group, but he didn't last long. Jay also brought in his high school friend Mark Shuetee( guitar ),so for awhile, Esoteric had 2 guitarists at once. The band had been through so many changes that they decided to change the name. Jay came up with Esoteric from the dictionary. It meant "only intended for, or known by- an elite few". Secretive, obscure. He thought it was perfect for the kind of music they played. It wasn't exactly what was on the radio at the time, and the type of music Esoteric was making was underground again-after being considered pop music in the 80s. Pearl Jam and Nirvana-angrier mosh pit music for sweaty guys- were all the rage by now, not dancey sexy rock for chicks, and guys who like chicks. Indeed, Esoteric's music was only gonna appeal to an elite selective few, and that was fine with them. They wanted to play what they loved, not merely what was declared "hot" and "cool" to sound like. Esoteric was never part of any "scene"-they did their own thing.

    Saraboth, Jay, Dennis, Garron, Josh

    Josh, Dennis, Chris Kidd, Jay, Garron, Mark

    CLOCKWISE: Garron, Jay, Dennis, Chris Kidd, Pat

    This lineup did alot of shows, including the Metro in Riverside. After Chris Kidd they got Byron Hall on guitar. He brought a metal influence to it, he was very into Yngwie Malmsteen, Iron Maiden, and the violinist Paganini-and this version sounded like Motley Crue or Judas Priest and Depeche Mode merging. Kind of cool, but it left alot of people going "What the fuck is this? Those 2 styles can't blend together!" When people can't pigeonhole your sound, when it doesn't recall what they already know and love-they avoid it, unfortunately. Esoteric recorded two 6 song demos with this lineup, but they were never really happy with the way they came out.

    Pat, Jay, Garron, Dennis, Byron

    Eventually Byron wasn't working out, he wanted to play more traditional metal-so they parted ways with him. Looking back, in hindsight, Jay feels the band should have never let him go, his playing combined with Jay's playing was like nothing at the time, totally unique. Dennis was also out, giving up music for good to get "a real job" and start a family. Garron then met Hector, a guitarist, at the Metro-a gothic/Industrial/new wave club Esoteric always hung out at- and invited Hector to audition. Since they also didn't have a bass player, Hector brought with him his songwriting partner Henry( Now of electronic band ST VN )on bass to fill out the sound. They jammed and it clicked.


    Henry, Hector, Garron, Pat, Jay-upstairs at the WHISKEY, HOLLYWOOD.


    WHAT HAPPENED?
    Things were looking good for this lineup, until GIRLFRIEND PROBLEMS! The band don't remember the details, but Garron and Henry's girlfriends got into some kind of a war, and that severed the ties between Garron and Henry. The band just couldn't exist with both of them, too much bad blood now-someone had to go. Hector pretty much opted not to pick sides, and quit the band. Obviously without Hector, Henry followed his exit, and Garron stayed on. This left Jay, Garron, and Pat with no guitar or bass section. They put out an ad for a guitarist and a bass player. A bassist named Derek called, and he jammed with Esoteric, and he kicked ass! From that point on, he was in the band. The guitar role was not as easy to fill, and the band even thought about saying "fuck it" to having guitar in the band again at all. Esoteric tried for months to find a guitarist. No dice.

    Then, Garron broke up with his lady, and decided to go to Germany to clear his head. He wound up being gone 2 years, but that's another story. Everything was falling apart it seemed. Gained a bass player, but lost a guitarist and now, the singer. While he was gone, they met another singer- from a 2 year old ad in BAM magazine that Jam found by luck. The singer was Nick. He came down and auditioned, and he was in that first night. This was midway through the 90's, 94 to be exact. Nick started a whole new era, and was the second chapter of the band's history. Now all they needed was a guitarist. They all decided that yes, guitar was going to be 1/5 of their overall sound. Frustrated, Derek decided to call Hector, just to see if there was any chance in hell of him coming back. He did. Esoteric FINALLY had a finalized, solid lineup.

    CLOCKWISE: Pat, Jay, Derek, Nick, Hector


    WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?
    What didn't happen next? Esoteric did very very good from this point on. Endless shows opening for all their musical idols. Dead or Alive, The Fixx, The Church, the Romantics, Dave Wakeling ( English Beat), Berlin, Missing Persons, Flock of Seagulls, Cliff Morrison (Jim's son), Korn, Sugar Ray (they were the Shrinky Dinks then), 311, Gene Loves Jezebel, Zapp with Roger, Modern English, Goddamn! It's hard to remember them all. They recorded 2 full length CDs- Esoteric and No Apologies. Esoteric feel the first album is the best. "The second one.....Don't know, it has good songs, but they're not recorded well. It just sounds thin", says Jay. Some of Darvoset's songs come from this time period, and Darvoset have remade a few songs like Darkness Of The Night ( this is actually the first song Jay ever wrote, and is over 14 years old! ), and Velvet Skies. More will surely be added. The Darvoset versions are 100% better obviously.

    Esoteric even made a video for "Feels So Real", another tune which Darvoset has made their own- but the video is so fucking cheesy! It's only worth mentioning to laugh at. As Jay says-"It came out looking like a cheap Mexican soap opera! You know the kind you can see on Telemundo? lol. Pure Velveeta cheese wiz man. Wannabe 'dramatic' love storyline and all. But fun to look back on and cringe. You'll never see it. Too lame."

    Esoteric broke up for good because Nick was diagnosed HIV positive, ( yes he is gay, and open about it) and started feeling weaker and weaker. He couldn't do shows anymore. He still does some electronic music on his own from home, and everyone who played with him hopes he's ok.

    Esoteric lasted 8 years (90-98) in one form or another, and set Jay's path. This band did alot, and was a great learning experience for him. It prepared Jay for what was to come with Darvoset.

    WE'LL LEAVE THE LAST WORDS TO JAY:

    "I wouldn't say I'd change those years, cuz I feel to be who I am today I had to go through that shit- but I do wish I knew then what I know now. I wouldn't have wasted so much time and tolerated flakiness and bullshit. Or cared what other's think so much. Sticking to such a democratic, '5 band guys with equal say and input' format proved to be pointless, as you compromise for them, and then they just leave you anyway. lol. So you're then stuck with music that didn't come out as you truly wanted it, and no band eventually too.

    I learned that you have to trust yourself and your own ideas and you own abilities, and not rely on other people to make you happy or to make your songs come alive. I spent alot of time being afraid, scared of being alone, thinking I needed others to make my songs good, for them to function properly.

    'I can't do that, I can't play that like he does'- that was my thinking then. An insecure person afraid of looking dumb. I'm much more confidant now in my own capacity to learn things. It's not arrogance, I know my limitations and am aware of what I cannot achieve instrumentally--but it's more a sense of feeling up to the challenge now-is all. I try anything today, any instrument, any riff, any genre-whereas in the past I'd quit before I began. To break out of your own little boxed in way of thinking....it's liberating. I used to see myself strictly as a synth/piano player. Today I'm more a guy who does it all, bits on all instruments here and there.

    Still, Eddie Van Halen isn't shitting his pants just yet over my guitar playing! lol. But I used to feel I needed to focus 100% on one thing, be the best I could be on the keyboards ONLY- now I've allowed myself to be functional, competent-on any instrument. I'll never be as great as Victor Wooten, Les Claypool, or Verdine White on bass, but it's cool to be able to lay it down with no help from others. I do what needs to be done, and it serves the song's needs and works. If I bring in anyone else to play a part on any given instrument, it's due to WANTING THEM, not NEEDING THEM.

    Now I know what I need MOST is loyalty and people I can trust- people I enjoy being with and who make me laugh. More than people who are the best musicians and most talented players. I'd rather have a cool, honest, fun person in my band, that sucks ass as a player, than some cocksucker asshole who shreds. It's predictable and a clich'e to say that, but as you get older, you realize cliche's are cliche's because they're so often true."
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